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More Car Setup Questions...
05:35 AM on May 23, 2008

I've been re-learning a lot of my setup tweaking technique, and I've come to find that a lot of the information I thought I understood is incorrect.

After reading over the VindexWorks/Race2play articles on setup tweaking I have a few questions...

1. Toe in is used to help straight line stability and corner entry correct? I've always dialed in more negative front toe-in for this reason. Am I right in doing so?

2. Camber is used to help balance tire temperatures correct? Is that its only purpose as far as setup tweaking goes? I've always adjusted camber to help "widen" the range of temperature between the outside and inside of a tire.

3. Anti roll bar (yes i'm asking again) is mainly used in the slower turns, where mechanical grip is mostly active correct?

4. Will I ever get a big benefit from adjusting Damper settings?

5. Caster dials in more negative camber, and helps in straight line braking and steering wheel centering correct?
Is there any time when caster shouldn't be used?

Thanks for any help with the above questions. I've heard mixed answers from a couple friends this past week and I've been trying to get an accurate source. Reading books only offers one dimension to learning it seems...




Posted by Conor McCarrell at 06:32 AM on May 23, 2008
Comment #1

1. Toe in (positive #), will help with straight line stability but it will cause understeer on corner entry, thus making it harder, not helping it.

2. More negative camber can give you added grip up to a certain point. I found the threshold to be around -4.0 degrees, but it depends on the car. Not sure what you mean about widening the temperature range. If its what I think I am reading, you want the opposite. You want the smallest temp difference between the outside and inside without risking too much grip. Requires a lot of practice to figure it out.

3. You generally want more ARB at faster tracks with sweeping turns. At tracks with slower turns, you want little or no ARB so you can get as much grip to the tires as possible.

4. Yes. Knowing how to adjust dampers to your exact personal feel is one of those things that separates the "aliens" from the mortals, IMO.

5. Yes, they add more negative camber and stability. Lower caster angles can help you turn better through the entire corner because of the smaller radius. Raising the caster basically lengthens the wheelbase of the car by a bit, thus making it harder through turns. However, it all depends on personal feel. Some people like low caster angles, and others like em high. I usually have mine at max, except on ovals.

Posted by Andrew Carson at 06:41 AM on May 23, 2008
Comment #2

Thanks for the reply Conor,

I definitely need to relearn toe in then. I have been moving in the wrong direction the whole time.
When i talk about "widening" the temperature range i mean spreading the front tires inside/out to within 10 degrees. Sometimes the front tires inside/outside will be too close together, and I like to keep the temps somewhat spread out among the tire.
I'll try to learn about the dampers.


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