Not really, but it could always be done. I'd much rather help you get better with setup adjustments, maybe some type of "class"?

Hmmmmm...didn't think of that. I know you guys have a lot on your plate so I will patiently wait but if you do end up doing some type of class I'll be pitching a tent and camping outside the R2P doors so that I can be one of the first students. ;)

It sounds silly but even though I have been into sim-racing since the late 90's I have never took the time to learn about setups. In the past I have either raced in fixed setup leagues or received setups from teammates or other resources. I already spend so much time on the pc and I can just see myself spending countless hours testing and tweaking setups. But I guess it's time to start messing with it.

I think a fixed setup series would be more popular then most think. On Sunday afternoons I compete in another league and they are now a 100% fixed setup league (all mods/series) because of it being a success and attracting more drivers. Most drivers there are serious, long time sim-racers who no longer have the time/desire to mess with setups.

I think you will find that setup creation and development does not take all that much time. Sure, you can spend countless hours refining the the infinite degree, but we are talking a tenth or two a lap. Im betting you are just wanting in the ballpark of a good setup for your style.

With a little knowledge, you can create a setup for any car, at any track, with minimal testing. And, the setup is yours... tailored to your driving style.

I may not be the best example, but when I get into a new car/sim I know what type of setups works for me. I make a few clicks, go out for a few laps, make a few more clicks, etc. Within a half-hour Im usually up to speed of the top-5ish guys and ready to fight it out for a podium position.

It's like riding a bike; takes time at first and it seems hard, but once you get the hang of it, you can do it with no hands and eyes closed (do not try that at home)

I dont see why we cant do some setup development classes, I think it would be cool. There are a few guides out there, one of which I wrote a few years back. While it is for NR2003 Touring Car racing, it applies to rF and GTR just as well. check it out, it's good bathroom reading if nothing else.

Rj,

PM me with your setup needs (as long as it is not Nascar related) and I'll help you the best that I can.

Tim- the development classes sound like a great idea. I would be all over that.

Sir Finn- thank you! Nothing NASCAR related, just rF & GTR2. I am actually starting to get burned out on left turn only racing. I will look at Tim's guide, which I have seen before awhile back, mess around in game a bit and also see what happends with the development classes. But since I do have a couple races coming up next week here at R2P I believe I will take you up on your offer. I'll PM you soon so that I can get some type of setup going on that I can practice with from now until raceday.

Thanks for the quick response guys!

fixed sets have there place no reason to rule em out i think... i always enjoyed fixed oval racing better but yeah road races are more about the feel and handling than oval racing so it always helps to be able to tweak your road car.

ovals are all about the racing tho and somethimes fixed sets can go a long ways there makin a close race.that and oval setup tweaking can be a real job sometimes one of the main reasons i dont mess with it much anymore .

i just enjoy testing RC racing so much more than oval racing makes it hard for someone who does both to consistently make up fast stable sets in open weather.

were on the topic of fixed probley shuda made another thread but here gos i wanted to bring this up at some point to hear others thoughts we all know gtr's shortcoming in changing settings during the race.

not even sure if this is possible but could it be done so instead of completely random weather we run a fixed temp of whatever that real world track had that day or had been forcasted a few days ahead? if theres a such thing as fixed temp in gtr that is but you could also add the chance of rain for that day maybe? i know we used to do this in n2003 and it worked out ok it could really help here tho. one problem could be in gettin the temp info but it shudnt be to tuff and like i said maybe something for down the road (to late now)to help get by some of gtr'stuff we cant fix tho i still hope someone can mod at least rad changes into a pitstop one day :).

sounds interesting to me so we could al be practicing on that forcasted weather for the week etc then race day it could still change a tad or a bunch etc maybe not real clear not good at typing my thoughts here you get the drift tho hopefully .

I am the worst at setups. I would love to see a simple setup editing guide for rFactor. You know, get some ideas. When I ran my last Spec Rhez race, I was being killed 3/4 of the way down the Toban Straight. After being given a setup, I learned the biggest difference was that the car was set to limit at 400 more RPM's than the default set up. I guess that is where all the power into turn one came from! I think the answer to the problem is not fixed setup races, I think it's more sharing of setups and teaching. I have read many books on proper driving technique and they mostly apply to Sim-Racing, but I have yet to find a book on setting up a car that applies to the sim racing world.

I'd be interested in a setup class as well. I've never figured out the keys to a proper setup. Maybe run the class using Teamspeak while we're all online together, working on setups at the same time, practicing, seeing the differences it makes with each other. That'd be a real online class situation.

Here's another vote for a setup class.

I've managed to start having a bit of success tweaking gears, brakes, diff, aero, alignment, tire pressures, and sway bars. However, I've learned from experience that the minute I start touching spring rates or shock valving, I'm just as likely to screw up my setup as make it better, and not even know why.

I have been into racing sims for years but have only raced online for the last couple of years. I can do the obvious set-ups ok(like setting the gears so it doesn`t bog down or blow up, and less tire pressure and more wing for more grip) but generally I don`t know beans about car setup. I want to drive, my pit crew is supposed to do the rest. Where are they? I would definately be interested in a class if that is what you decide to do and I would also be interested in a fixed setup series too. I am an IROC fan after all. They both sound good to me. With the class I could learn something and come out a better driver , and with the same setup racing I could see if my lack of setup knowledge is really the problem or I really am that bad a driver.