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rFactor crashes
02:11 PM on Sep 10, 2007

In the Fabcar race yesterday, I got "Application error" and rFactor crashed to desktop. That happened 3rd time for me and all 3 times it happened in "long" races.

Once during F1 race ~1.5 hours after the race start, once somewheer else, and this time, again, with ~5 mins to go in a 2 hour race.

I was very disappointed and it seems previous crashes were not "accidental" - there is something wrong on my side.

- I checked system logs. Yes, around the time I got CTD, there was Antivirus activity - LiveUpdate or something like this.
- I also suspect it could be MoTeC logger. 2h logs could take quite a lot and this could cause the CTD. Can somebody confirm that he runs long (1.5+ hours) races with MoTeC logging on?
- Teoretically my PC can be overheating. But I highly doubt, because it's not overlocked and I never had similar problems in other software. I don't usually put much load on my PC, though, so I can't be sure about overheating.

Do someone else have any suggestions/advises?

My PC spec.: AMD Athlon64 3200+ / 1Gb RAM / nVidia 7900GS 256 Mb




Posted by Samuel Krueger at 04:46 PM on Sep 10, 2007
 Comment #1

I would start from checking that all the cooling fans are working and that there are not much dust etc. Remember to check the PSU (Power supply unit) fan too , those are known to fail at times and it can take a long time before it creates a visible problems.

Live update refers to Symantec products and some of the Norton NIS/NAV updates are just huge , if you get such a update during the race , it could well drop you out of the race. I don't know how the Live Update can be de-activated , but maybe someone else here can help on that.

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Samuel

Posted by Dmitry Tsarev at 07:55 PM on Sep 10, 2007
 Comment #2

Thanks, Samuel :)

Yes, I already deactivated LiveUpdate. It really caused disconnects before, while downloading updates. I checked the logs and the times when I got disconnects were the same when it was updating. But those were just disconnects, not "Application Errors" from rFactor.

So about the "Application Errors" - I'm not sure that Symantec causes this. Though, yesterday in the Fabcar event, at the time I got "Application Error", there was LiveUpdate activity again, so, possibly, it could cause the "Applilcation Error".

I disabled LiveUpdate, so I hope the won't be more CTDs. I created this entry just to ask for advises if there could be something else :) Like MoTeC logging, maybe.

My next "trial" is PLMS race this Sunday :) Keep fingers crossed for me, please :)

Posted by Dmitry Tsarev at 10:56 PM on Sep 16, 2007
 Comment #3

CTD again for me :) In today's PLMS race.

This time there was no Antivirus activity.

So the last thing which I suspect in doing this is Data Logging. The next attempt with MoTeC logging off will be my last attempt to race 60+ minutes races. If disabling MoTeC logging won't help, I give up. :)

Someone has other ideas or experienced such problem?

Posted by Janko Glavac at 11:54 PM on Sep 16, 2007
 Comment #4

Have you tried some memtest and stuff like that? Seems it might be hardware issue, so try more of those diagnostic programs... memtest, prime... etc...

Posted by Dmitry Tsarev at 09:35 AM on Sep 17, 2007
 Comment #5

Thanks for the tip, Janco, I'll try. :)

Posted by Oleg Bigeza at 04:31 PM on Sep 17, 2007
 Comment #7

Dmitriy, try CPU burn, memtest and voltage monitor to locolizi your problem

Posted by Joco Gorenc at 11:45 PM on Sep 18, 2007
 Comment #8

Got this today... I'll reinstall drivers tomorrow and see.


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