Ryan Robbins's blog
Heel toe and clutch
10:39 PM on Sep 11, 2007

Lately I have been wondering about the heel toe technique. A few months ago I purchased the G25 wheel and have been trying to get used to the clutch pedal and learn the heel toe technique. I have seen some good information on it already on this website. I was wondering if a lot of guys use it and if you believe that it is essential to achieve the best times. I still suck at it, and have not used it for racing yet. But I enjoy the realism factor, and hope to improve.




Posted by Shane Thompson at 11:22 PM on Sep 11, 2007
Comment #1

Hey, when it comes to actual races on here, most people Use the paddles or sequential stick. so they want mis shift.
I have a G25 to, and i have been using it to refine my heel toeing for real life racing in my car that has H pattern

But to answer your question, yes heel toe is the most effcient way to down shift. since you are doing 2 things at once, instead of breaking them up into segements, braking and down shifting. and it allso is good, because you down shift smoother, without upsetting or bucking the car.

Posted by Clay Benish at 01:57 AM on Sep 12, 2007
Comment #2

I couldnt Heel-toe with the way the pedals are set up. The Gas is too far forward, so when the brake is depressed, It was too far below the gas to blip the gas.

There are some threads on RSC showing some mods to mount the pedals differently, both mounting them upside down or the stock way.

Look at the 3rd post. Really simple but looks like a huge improvement

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=282076

Here are some others with the top mounted

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=276823

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=294680

I use the H-shifter most of the time unless I am driving a car that really has paddles. I don't think it is slower, but I am not able to drive on the edge of performance like alot of the people here.

To be honest, since the sims don't simulate the clutch well, I find myself forgeting to use it and just shifting. Trying to work on that.

Posted by Ryan Robbins at 06:04 AM on Sep 12, 2007
Comment #3

Great link to the posts, thanks! Those are some good pictures of the modifications made. Not sure if I want to go that far yet, but the changes make sense IMO.

Posted by Mike Waltz at 06:45 PM on Sep 12, 2007
Comment #4

ISI-based sims don't require a clutch for shifting on the fly, nor do most of the actual cars that we are simulating. So I just left foot brake. Eventually I will remount the pedal modules for heel-toe. I'm hoping to match the geometry in my road car, so maybe I'll get some good practice for AutoX. :)

Posted by Jimmy Jones at 08:05 PM on Sep 13, 2007
Comment #5

I have been heal-toeing with the auto-clutch aid turned off for most of my races here at R2P. I think it actually makes me a bit slower then if I went back to auto-clutch / paddle shifting, but I just can't make myself do it. I enjoy the extra difficulty that heal-toeing adds to an extent, but I'm sure it contributes to my frustration level of not be able to contend for wins.

As far as ISI not simulating the clutch very well, if you leave auto-clutch on your right, it doesn't matter if you use the clutch or not while down shifting. However turning auto clutch off and then not using the clutch on down shifts can cause the rear to step out from time to time if I'm off on the rev matching when I shift. It's probable nowhere close to a real car but it can cause you to spin out.

BTW, my technique still is not that great, but I notice it getting better and better with each race I do. The other night in HPDT course there were a few times where I nailed my down shifts perfectly, it was like sweet music to my ears. Kind of like the swish of a nothing but net basketball shot, or that perfect 9 iron shot on onto the green. Those brief moments of satisfaction keep me coming back for more :)


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