Yah, and I actually gave them on a run at Illinois, a track I'm typically fast on. I expected that these would run slower, especially because I don't know enough about making setups to have made one good. However, I was only a quarter of a second off my personal best from the last race we ran there. The cars surprised me how fast they still were and how good they felt.

Have to agree with David F on the grossness of the taht track. Not only does it look cartoony but what's with the way it feels like a pontoon boat in a speedboat race? I was getting seasick going through the corners. Now the 08 car are going to be fun no question about it. Seem to be much easier to setup and drive and by no means do they seem slower. In fact I ran better lap times at Daytona/Florida with them. Going to be fun!